Thank you, Dana!! And thank you all who put up with or skipped my intro. And I will say it here before my copy editor Andy points it out: I know that there is a section on the homepage that says "Least Commented On Post Of The Day" which is in fact a new feature I want to include as we grow, but it is not meant to be there and is followed by a lot of empty boxes meant for content. Sorry about that and I will fix it as soon as I figure out how. Let's also acknowledge what a miracle it is that Luddite Me can even build these pieces and operate this site in the CMS all by my lonesome every day. And thanks for everything you overlook!
If I get enough votes prolong intro, I'd love to try to do both of those things . But if it's very divided, maybe I'll flip back-and-forth between short intros and long ones. Just to further frustrate and baffle my critics Andy and Charlie.
Hey Dana. Dana here ( I think we are awesome 😎). Anyway your story is 🔥!! And I am in awe of you for doing this! So many people would just let their marriage die a slow death, get a divorce and start over! This is an incredible dip in the "I'm gonna figure this shit out if it kills me" kinda vibe and you worked thru it and you are totally HOT! Kudos to you and your husband for being bold and brave.
It’s certainly not for everyone, and the way we navigated it ended with us no longer being romantically or sexually compatible with each other. We took a big risk and the cost was our traditional marriage. But he’s happy and I’m figuring out how to find my own happiness. I’m content, at least.
Something my ex and I realized when we were deciding what options we had other than divorce: Marriage is the one contract that doesn’t regularly get renegotiated. The rules haven’t changed much since women were essentially breeding stock. So we figured out what would work for us, not what was available to us. It’s been 14 years and it’s good.
I remember this idea of the renegotiable contract from the piece you wrote about your marriage (that feels like 10 trillion years ago). It stuck with me because it's very wise.
It does feel like forever ago! I couldn’t remember when we published it until I scrolled and found it. Six months!
The idea of marital renegotiation was just tossed out when Brian and I were talking that first night while making dinner. I don’t even remember who said it, but we were both immediately in agreement. It seemed so obvious once we said it. I take that view even with friendships now, too. It’s changed how I interact with the world for the better.
I love this, Dana. What a beautifully honest and subtle piece about something so deeply personal. Maybe one day I'll get to a point where I can set aside my own unreasonable expectations of male beauty, but that day is not today--and the clock is ticking!😅 Anyway, I hope you get tons of comments on this over the coming days. This is an essay that deserves lots of discussion, because there's so much in here.
Big Daddy, I'm on Team Charlie with the intros--don't hate me! Today's intro is much better.😉
Thank you so much for this comment. I really would like to do even more coverage of unrealistic expectations of male Beauty (though Charlie has done and continues to do a brilliant job of it - unlike anything I've seen anywhere else). It doesn't get talked about enough.
And I'm heartbroken about your reaction to my intro. Are you fat shaming my prior intros? I'm joking. (Though we all know it can be a little hard when someone says: This is so much better than what you were doing! Or: Less of you is far preferable!). I really appreciate you weighing in and am looking forward to more reactions. Thanks again!
For me, it's like when I go to a cooking site for a recipe, but there's 10,000 words before I can get to what I went there for. Let's get to the meat!
When I used to work on Music Row in Nashville, there was a session musician who was in high demand for his pedal steel guitar work. He had business cards with a little quote on them that said, "I really dig what you're trying to do."😜
“I really dig what you’re trying to do.” That guy might be my soulmate right there. Where in Nashville, did you say? 😝 (I recorded most of my album there a hundred years ago)
I’m having a hard time remembering the name of the studio where we recorded the album we were working on. It was in the Cool Springs area south of Nashville in Williamson County. Which studio did you cut your tracks in?
Turns out that some men think “non-monogamous” means “nymphomaniac.”. Soooo true. This was a great read, I deeply relate to the growth experienced in the journey of non monogamy.
Apps are so draining, especially in that space. I am not partnered, at least not in a nesting sense. However, I have a close platonic relationship with my wasband and have a few long term, consistent intimate relationships. I ended up on this path because I feel innately solo. I enjoy the autonomy and liberation of the lifestyle and I’m definitely not in it for the kink. That said, I’ve experienced things I never imagined myself doing or feeling and it was not all bad!🥵I’ve also learned what I want (a lot of time alone) and don’t want (…). This exchange fills my heart. Thank you for sharing, Dana!
Yeah, I’ve not dated or been on an app since late 2024. It required too much energy. If I am to ever partner up again, it’ll have to be initiated in real life. (And he will have to show up in my living room since I’m a complete hermit these days.)
“the initial new car smell of our relationship faded into…just smell.” You are funny and super freakin HOT. If this is none of my business, tell me or if I missed it, sorry. Does this also make the energy between your husband and you sizzle? Were you able to see the photos he posted?
That’s the highest compliment, Right? I have to say that because of the number of times that I have to read and reread and think deeply and strategically about all of your writings that get published here makes me feel like I am living with you in your lives and I can't stop thinking about you for days after your pieces are published . Then I forget, and move on to the next one – no just kidding, you live with me forever. Is that freaky?
That's amazing! It makes me so happy when anything I worked on has a lasting impact - even if it's just a funny little thing that gets stuck in your brain.
I've had a question all along that I was actually waiting for these comments to ask you (I know some editors ask for this in the editing process, but I sometimes intentionally don't because I like exactly the way that you've presented your story as is). My question is: what do your kids know of your relationship status, if anything?
Thank you again for this story that so many people are responding and relating to.
Our kids know that their parents are in an unconventional relationship. Yes, they know that it’s an open marriage.
The way they found out was…not ideal.
I’ve written about it. With some polishing it could possibly be something you could post here, Jane, but the last thing I want is to portray my husband as the “bad guy.”
I'm super interested in that story. And think it's very smart of you to not present your husband as the bad guy. I've been through that with my daughter's dad and always remembered that when my parents got divorced if my mom insulted my dad, I felt like she was insulting half of me. So I've tried to be careful on that myself.
And that sounds awesome to me that they know the basics of your relationship and that it is an open marriage. There was a time when no one would have let their kids know that. Or they would have tried to hide it in any case, likely unsuccessfully.
While I think it’s important to be honest with our children about who their dad and I are as people and what our personal values are, they also have no need for details.
Do monogamous people share the details of their sex lives with their children, generally speaking? No. Neither do we.
They know his girlfriend, she and I have become friends. Her title is vague. She’s our friend mutually, and no one asks too many questions. If either of my sons asks, he will get an honest answer, though.
I’ve gotten the occasional comment along the lines of, “Don’t you think she’s trying to steal your man?” 🤣
He’s not a possession, he’s a person. Therefore, not mine to steal.
Autonomy is the basis of all of my relationships. Now that I’ve seen the light, I don’t expect to be in a traditional relationship again in this lifetime.
What a jampacked interesting comment. Thank you! If your kids actually say to you that line about "stealing your man", they are my heroes. That is absolutely hilarious!
Jane, you know I would read essay-length editor's notes from you, but I also see Charlie's point. Maybe what you cut from the editor's notes can be their own posts? Dana, this was SO good and really got into a lot of aspects of body image and desirability and what women want from sex that I think are very relatable. I love your sense of humor, especially this line: "It’s like playing pong on Atari, but with your cooch."
And I wasn't expecting this to go in the direction of "platonic nesting partners" (what a lovely phrase) and think that's really sweet and interesting, that you didn't divorce, but stayed together in this configuration. I feel like that could be a separate essay, how you navigate being married but more as friends/life partners than sexual partners (obviously, you just dealt with the sexual side of that, but I mean the non-sexual side of it). I don't have any specific questions, I just think that's interesting and it also made me wonder how many couples are in sexless marriages and wish they could do something like this but don't because of shame/fear/not knowing it's a possibility.
And I agree, MeWe is a terrible name! Like it just sounds weird and doesn't give a clue what it's actually about.
Thank you so much for this whole comment. I am with you that I wasn't expecting Dana's marriage to land where it is now either. I found that particularly interesting about the story.
Everyone I know in person that opened their marriage up has not ended up together, with one exception. I'm happy Dana is where she (happily) is. And I love her attitude whatever direction she takes in the future.
I have a comment to you back about my intros but no time to write it right now so I will return for that! Thanks, thanks thanks for weighing in
Your comment makes a good case for not opening up marriages, Jane. And yet I get the sense that you don’t want to say that as a supportive, nonjudgmental person. Most open marriages should be amicable divorces, no?
That's an interesting point but I am not a believer in marriage in the first place (at least for myself) so I would say to take it back to the beginning and open and close it as you like without ever getting marriage involved. If you've already made the mistake of getting married (partially kidding), then I would say no need to divorce unless you want to somehow make that same mistake and get married again or get it annulled if you're Catholic or something. I know that sounds flippant, but it is genuinely how I feel.
Sure. And I know much better than to argue with someone's feelings. At the same time, there are tens of millions of happily married people - and studies show they're the happiest people of all. Don't their experiences count for something?
Yes, they definitely do. And your comment just made me smile because I loved to feel optimistic about this for other people – and even for myself! Let's see how life goes! Thank you for the positivity.
Hey Jane, that's very gracious of you. To me, the marriage conversation mirrors the political conversation. People are so negative and cynical that we forget how much we have in common and how well we can get along. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but I'd love to hear what you think about this piece I wrote: https://evanmarckatz.substack.com/p/the-article-that-all-the-major-publications - it's literally the antithesis of the narrative in the zeitgeist right now.
Thank you, Rachel! (The pong line still makes me laugh when I reread this piece 😆)
I will be writing more about how we navigate things. I personally have conflicting feelings about our arrangement because half of me wants to be in the family dynamic while the other half wants to live alone on the side of a mountain.
Oh! Quick note, Jane…the corset pic is actually the first pic I posted. It’s swapped with the one that I took after a few years of practice, which is telling me that my photography skills didn’t improve as much as I thought. 😅
Omg. I really analyzed these and swapped them a couple of times. (If you knew the trickiness of adding and removing captions and moving photos around on this platform – oy!) So the one that is not the corset one, but is just black and white, was the final? You're right that I thought it was reversed. They're all good!
Thank you for your detailed insight into non monogamy. I am doing a lot of internal self work right now and this hits close to home. And I agree with the others that you can drop the “kind of” from your statement.
I vote YES for whatever length of intro you fancy Jane. I loved your failed attempt at self-censorship in the intro to Dana's compelling piece😂. I don't normally eat while I read, or read while I eat....but started to read the piece and couldn't stop. But I was famished so nipped to the kitchen, got some food and ate as I read/read as I ate. Quite some feat for a man well-known for his lack of multi-tasking skills 😂. Oh, and YES to some regular posts/articles from you too Jane. You and Dana rock!!!
Thank you for this wonderful comment! Thank you for supporting me in whatever length intro I need to do! Because sometimes it feels like a need!!
I love Dana also and when I got the piece, I had to pee, but I didn't want to get up to do it until I finished it. So we are in sync there also about bodily urges taking a backseat to her wonderful story. Thanks so so much again for weighing in.
Jane, you won’t find me judging or insulting Gwyneth (she seems lovely to me), Goop, or anyone who associates therein. That was just part of my research back then.
I 1000% got that and truly appreciated it. It's actually rare for someone to make a Gwyneth reference and not have some snark in there, I find. So it was greatly appreciated and I hope I conveyed that. I know my note could have come off a little Big Daddy, as Andy would say, and I'm sorry if it did.
This piece is really fascinating! I want to send it to some of my friends who are clearly at a crossroads in their LTRs. I feel like there was another AJPT contributor who wrote about living with her ex-husband and I think it’s important to have more conversations about “non-traditional” relationships, especially since the Heritage Foundation seems poised to use TrumpWorld to institute mandated marriages and other human rights horrors.
Also, Dana, I am so glad you finally realized that you are "kind of hot," but you can delete the "kind of." You just are!
Ditto!!
Aw, shucks. ☺️
Definitely hot! I’m mostly straight but those photos are delightful!
I am mostly straight too (maybe I should have clarified) but hot is hot!
Thank you! ☺️
Thank you, Dana!! And thank you all who put up with or skipped my intro. And I will say it here before my copy editor Andy points it out: I know that there is a section on the homepage that says "Least Commented On Post Of The Day" which is in fact a new feature I want to include as we grow, but it is not meant to be there and is followed by a lot of empty boxes meant for content. Sorry about that and I will fix it as soon as I figure out how. Let's also acknowledge what a miracle it is that Luddite Me can even build these pieces and operate this site in the CMS all by my lonesome every day. And thanks for everything you overlook!
I’m also pro long intro, but I’m also game for aa long post or two a week from you!
If I get enough votes prolong intro, I'd love to try to do both of those things . But if it's very divided, maybe I'll flip back-and-forth between short intros and long ones. Just to further frustrate and baffle my critics Andy and Charlie.
I personally love your intros Jane, as I find you endlessly fascinating.
Excellent! So far, I have two votes for my longer intros: one from you and one from my mom. XO
Hey Dana. Dana here ( I think we are awesome 😎). Anyway your story is 🔥!! And I am in awe of you for doing this! So many people would just let their marriage die a slow death, get a divorce and start over! This is an incredible dip in the "I'm gonna figure this shit out if it kills me" kinda vibe and you worked thru it and you are totally HOT! Kudos to you and your husband for being bold and brave.
Thank you, Dana!
It’s certainly not for everyone, and the way we navigated it ended with us no longer being romantically or sexually compatible with each other. We took a big risk and the cost was our traditional marriage. But he’s happy and I’m figuring out how to find my own happiness. I’m content, at least.
I agree, we are awesome. 😁
I vouch for the fact that both Danas are awesome
Something my ex and I realized when we were deciding what options we had other than divorce: Marriage is the one contract that doesn’t regularly get renegotiated. The rules haven’t changed much since women were essentially breeding stock. So we figured out what would work for us, not what was available to us. It’s been 14 years and it’s good.
I remember this idea of the renegotiable contract from the piece you wrote about your marriage (that feels like 10 trillion years ago). It stuck with me because it's very wise.
It does feel like forever ago! I couldn’t remember when we published it until I scrolled and found it. Six months!
The idea of marital renegotiation was just tossed out when Brian and I were talking that first night while making dinner. I don’t even remember who said it, but we were both immediately in agreement. It seemed so obvious once we said it. I take that view even with friendships now, too. It’s changed how I interact with the world for the better.
I love this, Dana. What a beautifully honest and subtle piece about something so deeply personal. Maybe one day I'll get to a point where I can set aside my own unreasonable expectations of male beauty, but that day is not today--and the clock is ticking!😅 Anyway, I hope you get tons of comments on this over the coming days. This is an essay that deserves lots of discussion, because there's so much in here.
Big Daddy, I'm on Team Charlie with the intros--don't hate me! Today's intro is much better.😉
Thank you so much for this comment. I really would like to do even more coverage of unrealistic expectations of male Beauty (though Charlie has done and continues to do a brilliant job of it - unlike anything I've seen anywhere else). It doesn't get talked about enough.
And I'm heartbroken about your reaction to my intro. Are you fat shaming my prior intros? I'm joking. (Though we all know it can be a little hard when someone says: This is so much better than what you were doing! Or: Less of you is far preferable!). I really appreciate you weighing in and am looking forward to more reactions. Thanks again!
Fat shaming your prior intros.😭
For me, it's like when I go to a cooking site for a recipe, but there's 10,000 words before I can get to what I went there for. Let's get to the meat!
When I used to work on Music Row in Nashville, there was a session musician who was in high demand for his pedal steel guitar work. He had business cards with a little quote on them that said, "I really dig what you're trying to do."😜
“I really dig what you’re trying to do.” That guy might be my soulmate right there. Where in Nashville, did you say? 😝 (I recorded most of my album there a hundred years ago)
I’m having a hard time remembering the name of the studio where we recorded the album we were working on. It was in the Cool Springs area south of Nashville in Williamson County. Which studio did you cut your tracks in?
I have zero recollection of that information 😳
Andy, my dear friend and champion! Thank you for supporting me and my oversharing. 😆
As a fellow oversharer I’ve got your back. 😅
Turns out that some men think “non-monogamous” means “nymphomaniac.”. Soooo true. This was a great read, I deeply relate to the growth experienced in the journey of non monogamy.
Apps are so draining, especially in that space. I am not partnered, at least not in a nesting sense. However, I have a close platonic relationship with my wasband and have a few long term, consistent intimate relationships. I ended up on this path because I feel innately solo. I enjoy the autonomy and liberation of the lifestyle and I’m definitely not in it for the kink. That said, I’ve experienced things I never imagined myself doing or feeling and it was not all bad!🥵I’ve also learned what I want (a lot of time alone) and don’t want (…). This exchange fills my heart. Thank you for sharing, Dana!
I love this for you, Melanie!
Thanks for reading, Melanie!
Yeah, I’ve not dated or been on an app since late 2024. It required too much energy. If I am to ever partner up again, it’ll have to be initiated in real life. (And he will have to show up in my living room since I’m a complete hermit these days.)
“the initial new car smell of our relationship faded into…just smell.” You are funny and super freakin HOT. If this is none of my business, tell me or if I missed it, sorry. Does this also make the energy between your husband and you sizzle? Were you able to see the photos he posted?
I can’t stop thinking of this essay.
That’s the highest compliment, Right? I have to say that because of the number of times that I have to read and reread and think deeply and strategically about all of your writings that get published here makes me feel like I am living with you in your lives and I can't stop thinking about you for days after your pieces are published . Then I forget, and move on to the next one – no just kidding, you live with me forever. Is that freaky?
Jane, I’m like that too. People’s words live with me forever.
There’s an article from Sassy that *still* lives in my head…the Heathers (still one of my all-time favorite films) interview with the cast.
“What a shame. Oh, the humanity.”
That's amazing! It makes me so happy when anything I worked on has a lasting impact - even if it's just a funny little thing that gets stuck in your brain.
Aw, so sweet ❣️
That’s the best compliment ever ❤️
Thank you, Amanda! ❤️
After writing this, I think I’ve established that very little is left to “none of your business.” Haha
Yes, I could see his photos. At first it did reignite our sex life. Right up until it didn’t. That’s a subject I’ll tackle in the future.
He and I have been platonic for a few years. He has a lovely girlfriend who he’s been with for just as long if not longer.
Any other questions, please ask.
I've had a question all along that I was actually waiting for these comments to ask you (I know some editors ask for this in the editing process, but I sometimes intentionally don't because I like exactly the way that you've presented your story as is). My question is: what do your kids know of your relationship status, if anything?
Thank you again for this story that so many people are responding and relating to.
Our kids know that their parents are in an unconventional relationship. Yes, they know that it’s an open marriage.
The way they found out was…not ideal.
I’ve written about it. With some polishing it could possibly be something you could post here, Jane, but the last thing I want is to portray my husband as the “bad guy.”
I'm super interested in that story. And think it's very smart of you to not present your husband as the bad guy. I've been through that with my daughter's dad and always remembered that when my parents got divorced if my mom insulted my dad, I felt like she was insulting half of me. So I've tried to be careful on that myself.
And that sounds awesome to me that they know the basics of your relationship and that it is an open marriage. There was a time when no one would have let their kids know that. Or they would have tried to hide it in any case, likely unsuccessfully.
While I think it’s important to be honest with our children about who their dad and I are as people and what our personal values are, they also have no need for details.
Do monogamous people share the details of their sex lives with their children, generally speaking? No. Neither do we.
They know his girlfriend, she and I have become friends. Her title is vague. She’s our friend mutually, and no one asks too many questions. If either of my sons asks, he will get an honest answer, though.
I’ve gotten the occasional comment along the lines of, “Don’t you think she’s trying to steal your man?” 🤣
He’s not a possession, he’s a person. Therefore, not mine to steal.
Autonomy is the basis of all of my relationships. Now that I’ve seen the light, I don’t expect to be in a traditional relationship again in this lifetime.
What a jampacked interesting comment. Thank you! If your kids actually say to you that line about "stealing your man", they are my heroes. That is absolutely hilarious!
Very enlightened, I love it.
This is so important, same with my daughter, doesn't want to read anything "bad" about her dad, but he married a 15 yr old 😵💫
Yeah…Dana, that’s a tough one. 💔
I didn’t get the sense from your piece that he was physically abusive, but the mere fact that he did what he did *to a child* speaks volumes.
“But it was the 80s! It was a different time!” Screams our collective culture. That doesn’t make it right, mofos.
What a challenge to face in your family dynamics.
I hope to read more about your experiences.
Pineapple! And I'm also a huge proponent of black and white to elevate otherwise slutty selfies. Lovely piece, thanks for sharing! 💋
Thanks for reading, Shawna!
Jane, you know I would read essay-length editor's notes from you, but I also see Charlie's point. Maybe what you cut from the editor's notes can be their own posts? Dana, this was SO good and really got into a lot of aspects of body image and desirability and what women want from sex that I think are very relatable. I love your sense of humor, especially this line: "It’s like playing pong on Atari, but with your cooch."
And I wasn't expecting this to go in the direction of "platonic nesting partners" (what a lovely phrase) and think that's really sweet and interesting, that you didn't divorce, but stayed together in this configuration. I feel like that could be a separate essay, how you navigate being married but more as friends/life partners than sexual partners (obviously, you just dealt with the sexual side of that, but I mean the non-sexual side of it). I don't have any specific questions, I just think that's interesting and it also made me wonder how many couples are in sexless marriages and wish they could do something like this but don't because of shame/fear/not knowing it's a possibility.
And I agree, MeWe is a terrible name! Like it just sounds weird and doesn't give a clue what it's actually about.
Thank you so much for this whole comment. I am with you that I wasn't expecting Dana's marriage to land where it is now either. I found that particularly interesting about the story.
Everyone I know in person that opened their marriage up has not ended up together, with one exception. I'm happy Dana is where she (happily) is. And I love her attitude whatever direction she takes in the future.
I have a comment to you back about my intros but no time to write it right now so I will return for that! Thanks, thanks thanks for weighing in
Your comment makes a good case for not opening up marriages, Jane. And yet I get the sense that you don’t want to say that as a supportive, nonjudgmental person. Most open marriages should be amicable divorces, no?
That's an interesting point but I am not a believer in marriage in the first place (at least for myself) so I would say to take it back to the beginning and open and close it as you like without ever getting marriage involved. If you've already made the mistake of getting married (partially kidding), then I would say no need to divorce unless you want to somehow make that same mistake and get married again or get it annulled if you're Catholic or something. I know that sounds flippant, but it is genuinely how I feel.
Does that make sense to you?
Sure. And I know much better than to argue with someone's feelings. At the same time, there are tens of millions of happily married people - and studies show they're the happiest people of all. Don't their experiences count for something?
Yes, they definitely do. And your comment just made me smile because I loved to feel optimistic about this for other people – and even for myself! Let's see how life goes! Thank you for the positivity.
Hey Jane, that's very gracious of you. To me, the marriage conversation mirrors the political conversation. People are so negative and cynical that we forget how much we have in common and how well we can get along. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but I'd love to hear what you think about this piece I wrote: https://evanmarckatz.substack.com/p/the-article-that-all-the-major-publications - it's literally the antithesis of the narrative in the zeitgeist right now.
Thank you, Rachel! (The pong line still makes me laugh when I reread this piece 😆)
I will be writing more about how we navigate things. I personally have conflicting feelings about our arrangement because half of me wants to be in the family dynamic while the other half wants to live alone on the side of a mountain.
Oh! Quick note, Jane…the corset pic is actually the first pic I posted. It’s swapped with the one that I took after a few years of practice, which is telling me that my photography skills didn’t improve as much as I thought. 😅
(That’s a joke, I know it’s impossible to tell)
Omg. I really analyzed these and swapped them a couple of times. (If you knew the trickiness of adding and removing captions and moving photos around on this platform – oy!) So the one that is not the corset one, but is just black and white, was the final? You're right that I thought it was reversed. They're all good!
Yes, but honestly it doesn’t matter at all for the integrity of the piece.
And I don’t think I’ve thanked you yet for posting it! So thank you. 🥰
Thank you for your detailed insight into non monogamy. I am doing a lot of internal self work right now and this hits close to home. And I agree with the others that you can drop the “kind of” from your statement.
I spent much of my life judging women by that same scale till I figured it out.
I vote YES for whatever length of intro you fancy Jane. I loved your failed attempt at self-censorship in the intro to Dana's compelling piece😂. I don't normally eat while I read, or read while I eat....but started to read the piece and couldn't stop. But I was famished so nipped to the kitchen, got some food and ate as I read/read as I ate. Quite some feat for a man well-known for his lack of multi-tasking skills 😂. Oh, and YES to some regular posts/articles from you too Jane. You and Dana rock!!!
Thank you for this wonderful comment! Thank you for supporting me in whatever length intro I need to do! Because sometimes it feels like a need!!
I love Dana also and when I got the piece, I had to pee, but I didn't want to get up to do it until I finished it. So we are in sync there also about bodily urges taking a backseat to her wonderful story. Thanks so so much again for weighing in.
Pineapple 😍
Jane, you won’t find me judging or insulting Gwyneth (she seems lovely to me), Goop, or anyone who associates therein. That was just part of my research back then.
I 1000% got that and truly appreciated it. It's actually rare for someone to make a Gwyneth reference and not have some snark in there, I find. So it was greatly appreciated and I hope I conveyed that. I know my note could have come off a little Big Daddy, as Andy would say, and I'm sorry if it did.
Not at all! I just wanted to reassure you that I have a lot of respect for Gwenyth. I think she’s fiercely talented and innovative.
Successful women who don’t “know their place” get thrown under the bus in the patriarchal press. She’s another example of that.
I agree!!!!
The Arts and the Crafts 💎💕💎
This piece is really fascinating! I want to send it to some of my friends who are clearly at a crossroads in their LTRs. I feel like there was another AJPT contributor who wrote about living with her ex-husband and I think it’s important to have more conversations about “non-traditional” relationships, especially since the Heritage Foundation seems poised to use TrumpWorld to institute mandated marriages and other human rights horrors.
Hi, I’m the one with the live-in ex-husband. 😊I just linked it under my comment here. I’m excited that the conversation continues!
I just saw this comment after I mentioned your piece in another comment. It's all connected!
As much as my first baby daddy is insufferable, I've often considered something like this to avoid the dreaded custody exchange....much admiration!!
Thanks for reading, E! Please feel free to share this piece far and wide. I plan to write more on the topic.